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Name: The スッピン。 ギャル編 Translation: No make-up face, gyaru edition
Seller: CA MOBILE,LTD.
Price: Free
Language: English
Link: http://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id378277176
This app reveals any gyaru's secret...
Make-up
Everyone wants to know how these super cute girls look like without make-up.
Well with this app you can "scratch" their make-up out and see their real faces
Summary:
#1 Sakochi
#2 Sakichasu
#3 Half/half
#4 Conclusion: cultural differences in beauty perception (France
Japan)#1 Sakochi
#2 Sakichasu
#3 Half/half comparison
#4 Cultural differences in beauty perception (France
Japan)- Make fun of them for not being "that cute" without make-up
- Admire them for all the efforts they do on a daily basis for the sake of beauty
I lived both in France and Japan so I can tell there's a cultural differences here (I'm talking about my generation).
- In France, beauty should be natural and heavy make-up is prohibited, or people will call you a prostitute. A little bit of mascara and that's it, the rest is up to your attitude.
BUT: that is quite sad for girls that are not born "that cute" since no matter what they do to improve their appearance, people will still think negatively about them: "oh anyway she is ugly without make-up", "oh anyway she dyes her hair", etc.
In such case, people tend to have reaction 1
- In Japan, there is no shame to use "tools" to customize an appearance like for a game avatar. One of my friend gets up every day at 5AM for 2 hours of make-up. She has to apply 5 different creams and concealers, facial powder, eye powder, eyebrow powder, check powder, etc. and adds fake lashes and karakon (eye lenses). Light make-up also requires a lot of time.
BUT: there is so many beauty products that if you don't make the effort like other girls, you will feel out of the group.
In such case, people tend to have reaction 2
What's beauty for you?
Is it closer to the French one?
to the Japanese one
or is it completely different?
Please comment in the comment box below!
J'ai eu à peu près les deux réactions, c'est à dire que je trouve ça formidable de pouvoir changer son visage à ce point, et le résultat est souvent joli, mais en même temps, sans maquillage, elles sont loin de ressembler au résultat final.
ReplyDeleteWhat about boys reaction? Do they praise their girlfriend for spending time on their make-up? Do they go out with a girl without having seen her without make-up before? I'm really curious about guys who like Gyaru style.
ReplyDelete@_@ [shock!]
ReplyDeleteThere are some beautiful girls in Japan for sure, but not as many as the Japanse try to show us :> Just like in anime :)
As for me, I preffer light make-up. Luckly in Poland girls don't use too much "tools".
And please don't show any other stuff like that! I don't wanna have nightmares! ;P
@Virak: moi c'est plutôt par phase xD mais dans tous les cas je suis trop flemmarde pour me maquiller comme une gyaru tous les jours
ReplyDelete@Anon: interesting question, I will ask some of my male friends! but most of my friends don't like gyaru style, they say they're too afraid of those girls haha :3
@Jarpen: please don't have nightmares xDDD
It's funny that you bring that topic up (with an interesting illustration btw) because I've discussed it a lot with my friends in Japan. Since I'm also Asian and lived in both France and Japan, I'm also somewhere between reaction 1 and 2.
ReplyDeleteBasically, I don't like heavy make up and I value natural beauty more. Anyway I'm too lazy to put elaborate make up, and most French products don't suit me (unless you go for specific and expensive products), so most of the time I just wear lip gloss. As long as I look presentable, I won't bother.
But I respect the effort one puts to enhance her appearance. "Looking presentable" is the key. I think Asians are very concerned about looking presentable, and Asian (especially Japanese) girls just tend to take it a bit too far (for me, the point where you look like a completely different person with and without make up is the limit).
@Anon: All my Japanese male friends I talked about it dislike heavy and/or too frequent make up. They're not gonna ditch a girl because she wears make up, or want to see her without make up before they accept to date her, but they won't praise their girlfriend for spending time on make up, because that's not something they're wishing for. They're tired of seing painted faces all the time and they'd rather see a girl with light or no make up at all (not to mention those who have woken up one morning next to someone who looks like a whole different person after taking her make up off).
You'd think girls make so much effort to look attractive, but in the end guys don't care so much for make up (if they don't dislike it) and the Japanese make up culture is more a matter of peer and commercial pressure (damn Irié I agree, there are so many product even I started using them!!!).
I don't know about guys who like gyaru style, because there's none among my friends (if I ask them about gyaru, they'll just say they look gross or scary...). But here's a sample of my my male Japanese friends think about make up ↓
Friend A, when looking at a magazine with KARA on the cover: "I hate ugly Asian girls who put too much make up".
(Translates as: "I hate girls who are trying too hard to look pretty and put too much make up. Especially if they're actually ugly. That's just vain, tasteless, and deceptive. And I'm totally being harsh, and I'm totally ignoring the fact that you're Asian. I'm totally ignoring the fact that I'm supposed to be Japanese and polite BTW so it's coherent.")
Friend B, joined the discussion with friend A: "Asian girls put too much make up (too heavy and too often), it's annoying. I prefer no make up at all! By the way, it's strange you're Asian but you don't wear any make up. Somehow Asian girls in Europe don't put too much make up..."
Like friend A, he's fed up with make up. To the point that he described as "too heavy" the make up of a friend which even I don't consider as heavy by French standards!
Friend C, when asked by Chinese girls why Japanese girls put make up everyday: "Because they're stupid". (We all burst in laughter, then asked again, but he repeated his answer. Translates as "I can't explain why. I don't know know why they're doing it. But I don't like that habit, and I'd prefer them not to care so much.")
Moi je serais plutôt version française, mais absolument pas dans le sens : "pot de peinture=pute" mais plutôt : se maquiller pour mettre en valeur les atouts de son visage et pas pour tenter de ressembler à quelqu'un d'autre. Je trouve ça par exemple très dommage une rousse qui se teint en blonde et qui dissimule ses adorables tâches de rousseur sous 10 couches de poudre... :'(
ReplyDeleteLà les lentilles grossissantes je trouve que pour la vie de tous les jours, ça ressemble trop à du déguisement. Pour une star de la chanson pourquoi pas, ça reste très esthétique !
Après sinon, je suis d'accord ya beaucoup de boulot derrière tout ça, elles sont bien patientes ! Mais je me demande si à force de prendre autant de temps à se maquiller tout les jours, ça n'en devient pas obsessionnel, jusqu'à en être phobique d'être vue non maquillée.
Je trouve qu'une est jolie en particulier, les autres bof. Ca doit surtout faire peur à leur mec de les voir démaquillées comme ça, totalement différentes x)
ReplyDeleteThanks everybody for their comments♥♥♥
ReplyDelete@jyuri: haha so you started to buy Japanese cosmetics too (≧∇≦) ? That's the power of Japanese marketing!!
I think you raised an interesting point: why Japanese girls feel the need to put make up everyday (even karakon and false lashes for some of them)? I think this has to do with self esteem: as most of the girls are very shy, wearing make-up can help them be more confident.
There is a similar trend in France but with bags/purses (LV, Gucci, Chloé, Gérard Darel, etc.): it was proved that women with luxury bags use them as "protective charms" for example during interviews or client meetings (^^;)
@Nyanyo: oui il y en a peu qui acceptent d'être vues non maquillées... enfin je dis ça, pour moi aussi maintenant impossible de sortir sans un trait de eyeliner (ﾒ￣ ￣) , même si c’est pour aller faire les courses. La parade à cela, c’est de mettre des énormes lunettes de soleil (les lunettes mouches qui bouffent tout le visage lol), mais aller à la supérette à 3h du mat en lunette de soleil, il n’y a bien qu’au Japon qu’on puisse faire ça x’D
@Pyl: pas de souci pour le français ! moi aussi je suis plus confortable avec (^^). Sinon oui t’as tout compris pour le rapport maquillage-confiance en soi ! J’aime aussi beaucoup ta remarque étymologique, je n’y avais jamais pensé...
Je crois que dans ces pays (Japon, Corée du Sud, Taiwan) la beauté est "construite" par les artifices cités dans l’article donc effectivement celles qui ne jouent pas le jeu sont marginalisées (c’est le revers de médaille de la réaction 2 telle que je l’ai présentée dans l’article). D’ailleurs j’y pense... c’est vrai qu’une japonaise qui ne se maquille pas se fera traiter de chinoise... !! Je l’ai déjà entendu de mes propres oreilles à l’école °0°
@kaoru: moi j'aime bien Sakichasu démaquillée! plus qu'en version gyaru en fait :3
C'est vrai que se maquiller en gyaru tout les jours, faut vraiment avoir envie ^^;;;
ReplyDeleteC'est intéressant de voir tout ces avis, sur le moment je n'y avais pas pensé.
Personnellement, il n'y a pas de différence flagrante (pas autan que ces filles en tout cas) entre la version non-maquillée et maquillée, pourtant je me tartine crème, de poudre et de far à paupière, et tout le tralala, et tout ça pour paraitre naturelle et en forme... snif...
Pour moi c'est juste pour me mettre en valeur et pas pour me transformer, c'est peut-être aussi pour ça que j'accepte assez mon apparence même quand je sors sans maquillage pour faire mes courses.
Même si je trouve ces transformations étonnante, l'idée d'essayer un jour m'amuserai mais juste pour du cosplay, je me vois vraiment pas sortir avec des amis avec tout ça sur le visage.
Et puis comme ça a été dit, les garçons ne se soucient pas tant que ça du maquillage, un joli visage bien entretenu c'est déjà bien pour eux, la plupart ne savent même pas tout ce qu'on a dut mettre pour juste paraitre rayonnante alors... XD
J'en connais un qui croyait naïvement que les jolies filles tawainaises qu'il croise au pays étaient toute naturelle, et surtout il ne savait pas que les filles dans le même genre que celles de cet article pouvaient avoir une base aussi... Banale. ^^;
C'est toujours impressionnant de voir le "avant/après"
ReplyDeletePerso j'aurai tendance à dire tant mieux si la fille est belle au naturelle (moins de boulot à faire mdr) mais j'ai aussi un grand respect pour la fille qui se maquille et qui sait comment se mettre en valeur, ça devient tout un art. Comme toi Irié, j'ai des jours ou je me maquille bien à fond, avec CL, faux cils etc. Mais bon je suis loin de faire ça tous les jours.
Quoi qu'il en soit, tant qu'on se sent bien dans sa peau avec ou sans maquillage c'est ça l'essentiel :D
@Irié: I'm totally sold to Japanese cosmetics now. I no longer want to bother with searching equivalent replacement products (which may not exist or may be too expensive) when my supplies run out. I'll have someone send me my concealer cream, concealer powder, eye liner and lip gloss from Japan
ReplyDeleteAs for self-confidence: +1. I feel much more confident when I can hide the dark circles under my eyes (*/∇＼*). Sometimes I'd be too afraid I'd scare people away with my panda eyes (≧∇≦). I'll stick to make up as a confidence-booster so far, luxury bags are too expensive for me (TдT)
(au fait je commente en anglais parce que l'article est en anglais et pour que les non-francophones, mais finalement y a quasiment que des francophones qui ont répondu XD)
Hi ;)
ReplyDeleteMy name is Lisa and I'm Japanese.
I love your games and artworks!!
This is my (and my male/female friends) opinion.
Girls who like to make-up their faces in "Gyaru-make" are:
1, Want big changes or personality.
2, Want able to attract friends/boys interest or attention.
3, Looks cute and gaudy on photos, purikura(print-club)...etc.
4, Be looks more fashionable.
At least, most of my (Japanese) male friends are closer to the French one.
But female friends, if anything, like more cute and gaudy people.
By the way, I like "gyaru-make" too :]
Because of looks cute on photos or purikura, haha.
Well... sorry for my poor English... :(
This is the one of Japanese girl's opinion.
I also look forward to your updates and activity.
Enjoy your day <3333
First thank you for good topic for discussion;)
ReplyDeleteI respect the huge efforts of these Japanese gyaru although I prefer "French" beauty type discribed by you here and I don't use heavy make-up. My favourite cosmetic brand is Jane Iredale. I am a fan of "nude" make-up:) But it is a great job to be beautiful every day! 2 hours for make-up! Just think about it! It's like an art)
Unfortinatelly in my country many young girls and even adult woman use gaudy make-up. It seems like 70% of them just unable to understand advantages\disadvantages of their appearance when they use make-up. I wish they become more beautiful T_T When I see such cases of awful make-up I want to edit them <_< May be "minimalistic" make-up is better for most of Russian women and girls.
@Virak: ahaha tu as bien raison, ce que les garçons peuvent être naïfs à propos du maquillage!!... mon copain a pensé pendant super longtemps que la french c'était naturel pour certaines filles lorsqu'elles se laissaient pousser les ongles °0°
ReplyDelete@Sinath: oui au final je pense qu'on doit adapter le degré de make-up selon les situations (travail, soirée, virée entre amis, etc.)
@jyuri: yes I also need my BB cream, MAC eye shadow and Ettusais eyeline to feel confident, especially when meeting new people (^^)
@Lisa: 英語でメッセージをありがとうございます!!わたしも小悪魔アゲハを見てギャルメイクをしたくなりましたが、やっぱり男性はナチュラルの方がいいんですね。
貴重なご意見ありがとうございましたm(_ _)m。
@Yulia: Russian women are already very beautiful, they don't need gaudy make up!!
Irie, thank you for your kind words! I think so too, but they don't get it anyway!!! :) I wish their boyfriends and husbands make them understand!
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